Wednesday, 22 August 2007

A truth or lie has to be spoken

You are in a hallway with two doors. One leads to hell, one leads to heaven. There is a guard standing by each door. One of the guards always tells the truth and the other one always lies. You have only one question to ask, what will it be? (assuming you want to go to heaven)

There is an answer to this riddle available on net, but Hamza and I found it to be debatable. So let us see what the great blogging minds can come up with.

(Bonus points if you can guess where the post title is from)

Till next time in Waseem world


M Junaid said...

i'l ask... does this door lead to the whores?

one guard will say yes, the other will say no. the one that says no is lying because there are whores in heaven and hell... but the tricky part is - why am i assuming that the angel that is guarding hell's door is the liar.

i have no idea where your post title comes from
(if you watched the south park movie, you'l know which door gandhi went through ;)

The Organ Harvester said...

i'm lost as all hell. but i would ask them my name. the one that lies. well he can just fuck off. hopefully the one telling the truth is not tossing me to hell

Waseem said...

I'll give you guys a big clue, the question is 2 fold because you need to know 2 things.

As for the post title only one person I know could possibly guess it, and he doesn't know.

Clue for Hamza: 'There's no voice in freedom'

Hamza Fareed said...

I don't know how you expected me to get the title what with my exceptional memory <--sarcasm :)
Man I haven't listened to them in ages, As for riddle I'd go through the one that has heaven written on top of it.

Libra said...

I'll feel more of a flake if I didn't admit that I asked around and now know the answer. I'm more interested now in why you think it's debatable but I guess I'll have to wait. Seems more a test of pure logic than a matter of philosophy...

Anonymous said...

Its not debatable, the answer is right. I was asking could the lying guard be devious but if he was devious it would mean he wasn't lying.

queen_Lestat said...

this reminds me of the liar paradox, some Greek poet died from insomnia while contemplating it. Hmmm I worry sometimes about my sleep habits :P

Anyways Liar paradox goes like this:
The sentence below is false.
The sentence above is true.

You see that? true cos it's false and fals cos it's true.

Live with peace or nurture your tragic life bite the bullet,or swallow it whole...


Not sure, they're too noisy for me most of the time :)

Dew said...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ---> that's me thinking hard. Which reminds me I did that in an interview today - they asked me a question - I said gimme a minute to think about that (tried thinkign hard) came up with nothing - dammit.and they looked all expectant. I said "i can't think on the top of my head" - think I botched it up.

Junaid - there are no whores in heaven - they're Hurs - clean. pure, beautiful. (Tradionally whores have been around hey)

anyway back to the topic - hm... I would ask the one. The name asking was good by Organ.

Fuggit! I don't know. All I can think of is in Monkey island there was a similar case between two parrots, but you quickly gather whose the liar or not because you drunk up one parrot and you can then distinguish whose the liar or not (the one parrot is all woozy and shaking).

so...can I offer the angels alcohol?

The Organ Harvester said...

can i just have the answer. this is bothering me. it's upsetting the balance.

Waseem said...

Ok the question you ask is "Which door would the other guard say leads to hell?"

The answer will always be a lie because the truth guy will say what the liar would say, and the liar would say the opposite of what the truth guy would say.

Ok the debatable part as Anon aka Hamza said that what if the liar was deceptive in that he didn't lie. I think that is getting more complicated than you need to be though.

Bonus points to QL for guessing the song which the post title originates from - Mudvayne - Choices. QL also came closest to figuring out the answer but as Brandy says 'Almost doesn't count'

Anonymous said...

ok, this is a cool riddle, and i've refused to even read the comments on this page, let alone search around the internet for the answer... however, i've wasted half the afternoon thinking about it. i think i've got it though.. lemme know what you think:

i would point to one door and ask, "if the angel of lies was standing right there, would he say he was guarding the door to heaven or the door to hell?"
- if the door was to heaven, the angel of lies would say "hell" and the angel of truth would also say "hell" (because he knew what the other one would say, and he is bound to the truth)
- if the door was to hell, the angel of lies would say "heaven" and the angel of truth would also say "heaven" (for the same reason as above)

so, if both angels say "hell", then the door is to heaven and if both angels say "heaven", go to the other freaking door.

does this work??

john k

Waseem said...

Yes John K, that is the answer, well done